tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post547435925974428844..comments2024-01-10T07:00:57.766-05:00Comments on It is about the money, stupid: Quick thoughts on Manny, TeixJason @ IIATMShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11675184282951841175noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post-83135946451564032102008-12-22T13:38:00.000-05:002008-12-22T13:38:00.000-05:00He could still use it as leverage though. I would...He could still use it as leverage though. I wouldn't put it past Boras to tell the team Mark still holds a small grudge from what happened before and if they want him they are going to have to pay just a little extra. Didn't the Yanks do a similar thing with CC and that 7th year?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post-9571137564139352572008-12-22T13:26:00.000-05:002008-12-22T13:26:00.000-05:00My thoughts on Teix:I don't think upping the offer...My thoughts on Teix:<BR/><BR/>I don't think upping the offer to match the Sox is being piggish at all. Like you said, they'd still be at or below last year's payroll. 8 years is a huge contract and plugs up a position that is a haven for sluggers who lose a step defensively (Arod, Jeter, Posada, etc...eventual 1B candidates) BUT, he's young and he plays a good all-around game. In the recent past, they've signed players to big money deals knowing that they were future DH types or clearly headed for the downside.<BR/><BR/><BR/>My thoughts on Manny:<BR/>3 years is too much, without a doubt. I just don't trust him to stay motivated for that long. BUT, I could see him staying motivated for the 1st year. To have the chance to compete against the Sox and stick it in their face? Could there be anything he'd want more?<BR/><BR/>The problem is, after that year, I can see it fading. Plus, he'll be in his hometown which could be kind of dangerous. The only possible saving grace could be if he intends on playing after the contract expires. If so, that could motivate him to put some effort into the 3rd year.dinologic (Dean D)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14412884655658158190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post-1217495526504775812008-12-22T12:09:00.000-05:002008-12-22T12:09:00.000-05:00Alex, you are correct. Teix turned down a $1.5M o...Alex, you are correct. Teix turned down a $1.5M offer from the prev Sox administration and then fell thru the draft. He felt that the Sox blackmailed him. And he ended up at G.Tech.<BR/><BR/>Whomever he was holding a grudge against is long gone. <BR/><BR/>Maybe he still doesn't 'want' to play for Boston if a competing offer emerges, but if they are the highest bidder, that's probably where he goes.Jason @ IIATMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11675184282951841175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post-12238333297718731282008-12-22T12:04:00.000-05:002008-12-22T12:04:00.000-05:00Alex: Previous ownership.On that note, has there e...Alex: Previous ownership.<BR/><BR/>On that note, has there ever been such a dramatic paradigm shift as the Boston Red Sox before and after Henry et al. bought the club? Under the Yawkey Trust the Sox were prehistoric; now they're cutting edge.tadthebadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850610376839190688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post-78246848635219335172008-12-22T11:49:00.000-05:002008-12-22T11:49:00.000-05:00Are the Sox going to bid against themselves now? ...Are the Sox going to bid against themselves now? Or do they have to pay a extra for his services? I remember seeing somewhere that Teix doesn't care for the Sox because of something that happened between them when he came out of high school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post-42082304415278439352008-12-22T11:24:00.000-05:002008-12-22T11:24:00.000-05:00Tad, I know. I can see Girardi going bonkers over...Tad, I know. I can see Girardi going bonkers over MbM. <BR/><BR/>Where would the dreads go? In the beanie under the hat?Jason @ IIATMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11675184282951841175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post-14439519455109735652008-12-22T11:23:00.000-05:002008-12-22T11:23:00.000-05:00Can you imagine ARod and Manny on the same team......Can you imagine ARod and Manny on the same team...whew, talk about filling the roster with head cases. I am laughing as I think about Manny in the Bronx for 3 years! I will laugh harder if it actually happens. All I can say is, enjoy...he will provide moments of both amazing production and amazing thoughtlessness. It really is something to behold.tadthebadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850610376839190688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post-929592435498522012008-12-22T10:54:00.000-05:002008-12-22T10:54:00.000-05:00Holiday spirit is all good, Tad. I'm feeling grea...Holiday spirit is all good, Tad. I'm feeling great. But the thought of a 3 year deal on Manny made my head hurt this AM!Jason @ IIATMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11675184282951841175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post-82501307286586161262008-12-22T10:52:00.000-05:002008-12-22T10:52:00.000-05:00What 2 years? Option years for Manny, memba? Ful...What 2 years? Option years for Manny, memba? <BR/><BR/>Full of piss and vinegar this AM or what? Where's your holiday spirit?tadthebadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12850610376839190688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post-28693443498257175922008-12-22T10:25:00.000-05:002008-12-22T10:25:00.000-05:00Thanks Jason.Thanks Jason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post-57920159586317348822008-12-22T09:45:00.000-05:002008-12-22T09:45:00.000-05:00Alex,I wrote that and debated even writing it. Th...Alex,<BR/><BR/>I wrote that and debated even writing it. Thanks for calling it out. I can't argue going the extra $1.5m/yr to get him and keep him out of Boston.<BR/><BR/>And no, they'd still be under last year's payroll even with Teix on board. <BR/><BR/>They took some $88m off the roster before this season. Then you add back about $40m for AJ and CC. Factor in some $20m in arb increases and contractual increases (just my estimate) and there's still somewhere between $20-$30m of headroom left.Jason @ IIATMShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11675184282951841175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9106257093107729484.post-73553172364709608792008-12-22T09:39:00.000-05:002008-12-22T09:39:00.000-05:00If the Yanks would offer 8 years $21 million a yea...If the Yanks would offer 8 years $21 million a year why not just bump it up another $1.5 million a year and make the 8/$180 offer? If it's only going to take that "small" amount I say go for it. <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure about the numbers, would this push their payroll over last year with existing contract increases and new contracts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com